Comments on: Gold Glove? http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/gold-glove-202/ Because iLove the Yankees Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:01:59 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Checking in on Tex’s defense « iYankees http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/gold-glove-202/#comment-5370 Checking in on Tex’s defense « iYankees Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:03:23 +0000 http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com/?p=4425#comment-5370 [...] notion goes beyond 2009, though. Here’s what I wrote in January about Tex’s defense. In 2007, Mark Teixeira had an UZR of -3.5. He was actually 15th on the [...] [...] notion goes beyond 2009, though. Here’s what I wrote in January about Tex’s defense. In 2007, Mark Teixeira had an UZR of -3.5. He was actually 15th on the [...]

]]> By: charihar http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/gold-glove-202/#comment-3897 charihar Wed, 14 Jan 2009 05:20:27 +0000 http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com/?p=4425#comment-3897 Agreed, Jane. Agreed, Jane.

]]> By: She-Fan http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/gold-glove-202/#comment-3878 She-Fan Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:18:12 +0000 http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com/?p=4425#comment-3878 This is the last thing I'm worried about. Tex is the best we've had since Tino and Donnie. What we need is a #5 pitcher. This is the last thing I’m worried about. Tex is the best we’ve had since Tino and Donnie. What we need is a #5 pitcher.

]]> By: charihar http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/gold-glove-202/#comment-3875 charihar Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:10:31 +0000 http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com/?p=4425#comment-3875 Clearly, Tex is a talented first baseman with both offensive and defensive ability (as seen by his play last year). Giambi was garbage at first on a number of levels (he was scared to throw, had no range), so it's definitely safe to say that Tex will be better. If all goes well, hopefully he'll continue being one of the better defensive players at his position. Clearly, Tex is a talented first baseman with both offensive and defensive ability (as seen by his play last year). Giambi was garbage at first on a number of levels (he was scared to throw, had no range), so it’s definitely safe to say that Tex will be better. If all goes well, hopefully he’ll continue being one of the better defensive players at his position.

]]> By: tedbrogen http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/gold-glove-202/#comment-3874 tedbrogen Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:53:54 +0000 http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com/?p=4425#comment-3874 UZR (and many defensive metrics) tend to have large discrepancies year to year. These measures are still so new that no one knows if it is an indication that the player actually performed that different from one year to the next or if there is some sort of fundamental flaw in the system can lead to the numbers varying greatly. That's probably why its best to look at several defensive metrics, and if they all say one thing, there is a good chance it is true. If all the metrics say something, and it is also the common perception is the same, chances are even greater its true. Defensive metrics just aren't as refined as offensive statistics yet, and its harder to remove external factors. For example, UZR is zone based, but I believe they only categorize batted balls hit into a certain zone into 3 categories (flyball, line drive, ground ball) but obviously balls travel at more than three different speeds or types of balls that come off a hitters bat. Either way, no matter what measure is used (metrics or perception) its a pretty safe bet to say that Teix is a big defensive improvement over Giambi (whose range was described as "falldown" range) UZR (and many defensive metrics) tend to have large discrepancies year to year. These measures are still so new that no one knows if it is an indication that the player actually performed that different from one year to the next or if there is some sort of fundamental flaw in the system can lead to the numbers varying greatly.

That’s probably why its best to look at several defensive metrics, and if they all say one thing, there is a good chance it is true. If all the metrics say something, and it is also the common perception is the same, chances are even greater its true.

Defensive metrics just aren’t as refined as offensive statistics yet, and its harder to remove external factors. For example, UZR is zone based, but I believe they only categorize batted balls hit into a certain zone into 3 categories (flyball, line drive, ground ball) but obviously balls travel at more than three different speeds or types of balls that come off a hitters bat.

Either way, no matter what measure is used (metrics or perception) its a pretty safe bet to say that Teix is a big defensive improvement over Giambi (whose range was described as “falldown” range)

]]> By: NDYANKEE http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/gold-glove-202/#comment-3873 NDYANKEE Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:26:22 +0000 http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com/?p=4425#comment-3873 I hate it that people agonize over obscure stats like UZR... I've seen Teix play; he's always looked great in the field to me. I'm not too worried about it. I hate it that people agonize over obscure stats like UZR…

I’ve seen Teix play; he’s always looked great in the field to me. I’m not too worried about it.

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