Archive for October 12th, 2008

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Another One Bites The Dust…

October 12, 2008, 8:29 pm

From MLB.com:

LOS ANGELES — Dodgers reliever Scott Proctor, who was left off the National League Championship Series roster after battling arm problems, will undergo right elbow surgery Wednesday.

Proctor will have a partially torn flexor tendon repaired and a bone spur in the back of his elbow shaved down. Dodgers surgeon Dr. Neal ElAttrache considers it a straightforward cleanup procedure, according to club officials, and Proctor is expected to be ready for Spring Training.

Is anyone surprised? He threw nearly 200 innings between 2006 and 2007 and was playing with elbow problems all year long. What’s interesting with the Dodgers is that they have provided Joe Torre with not one, but 2 long-men, essentially (Hong-Chih Kuo and Chan Ho Park). Anybody get the feeling that, maybe, that wasn’t a coincidence?

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Depth Necessary

October 12, 2008, 6:16 pm

Back with more commentary on Joel Sherman’s latest. Here’s what Sherman had to say in regards to pitching depth, and specifically what went wrong in 2008 (and what should go right in 2009).

But as a way to gain a window into their offseason thinking, let’s give the Yanks essentially the rotation they desire: Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte (Mussina is leaning stronger toward retirement), Wang and Chamberlain.

The Yanks want a deep rotation because it gives them a chance to win any game. Nevertheless, it also allows the Yanks to potentially form a Triple-A rotation from among Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Jeff Marquez, Chase Wright, Alfredo Aceves and Phil Coke.

In four of the past five years, major league teams have used between 302 and 304 starters. That means 10 per team on average. So you better imagine a functional second rotation when building a team.

By force feeding Hughes and Kennedy last year, the Yanks not only put unready youngsters into 40 percent of the rotation, they also left themselves with such poor depth that Darrell Rasner and Sidney Ponson had to eventually become answers. The Yanks want to make sure Hughes, Kennedy and all their prospects earn their way to the majors from now on and also that there is young depth at Triple-A to counter the inevitable performance or injury issues.

Also by fortifying with free-agent starters, the Yanks believe they can more comfortably trade from the minor league stockpile now than they could last offseason with Santana.

Pitching depth is essential and to have a stockpile of arms is necessary for every team. Now, last offseason, most of the Yankee blogs that I visited, including my own, here, were pretty content with giving Ian Kennedy and Phil Hughes their respective chances in the Yankee rotation. However, we were essentially blinded by our young talent as many of us failed to question the lack of depth on the farm. Yes, there was depth in terms of talent, but in terms of “ready to pitch in the Bronx talent”, the Yankees were missing that, as it was depleted after IPK and Hughes were promoted (and they, in fact, weren’t ready either). I certainly apologize to readers for not questioning this lack of depth a bit more.

As sherman notes, that’s why the Yankees had to go with Rasner and Ponson. There were no attractive, secondary options and, therefore, the IPK-Hughes promotion turned out to be a losing strategy. What’s funny is that the Yankees didn’t trade Hughes and IPK for this reason (lack of pitching depth), yet they didn’t take the potential ineffectiveness into account. By adding established free agents this winter, the Yankees will bolster the depth of their minor league rotations (AAA and down), which will provide them with better choices if the injury bug ravages the team in 2009. Check out this post by Chad Jennings as he actually tries to sort out that abundance of pitching (Props to RAB). This will also allow the Yankees to trade for a solid OF or 1B, if they feel that the depth is adequate enough.

While the Yankees had a tough season and are sure to have an interesting offseason, they’re actually in a great position to create a winning team for years. Money which will be used to sign younger starters will help and their influx of pitching talent will maybe net them a young and controllable position player. I still think that they’ll go after Mark Teixeira, since he won’t cost them talent, but things are definitely bright despite the absence of a playoff berth.

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The Plan

October 12, 2008, 6:36 am

From Joel Sherman (NY Post):

The Yanks have roughly $88 million in salary potentially vanishing, and Yankees officials already are building toward a consensus how to use those dollars. Based on multiple interviews the initial plan looks like this:

1. Sign at least one and, preferably two, starters from among free agents CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett and Derek Lowe.

2. Re-sign either Mike Mussina or Andy Pettitte.

3. With the rotation deepened by free agency, use pitching prospects in particular to obtain a prime-age, high-ceiling player at first or in the outfield. Then use minor trades or free agency to address other areas.

First, before I briefly discuss this plan, I must note that Sherman’s article is bursting from the seams with valid insights and interesting thoughts. In fact, I’ll be discussing it throughout the day in order to touch on every point (he talks about a lot), so be sure to check out the entire thing, as it will serve as an important prologue to ensuing posts.

Now, about the plan–it looks good and it makes sense. When there are proven pitchers available on the free agent market, one has to consider them, especially after injuries and ineffectiveness dominated our starting line. In that regard, signing 2 of Burnett, CC and Lowe, again, makes sense. Adding to that depth by resigning Pettitte or Mussina would also be a proactive move and I doubt that anyone would argue with that notion. Now, the final stage of the plan is where things get tricky.

Sherman unpacks his statement throughout the article:

The Yanks still envision Hughes blossoming as a high-end starter. But for an attractive first baseman, center fielder or right fielder, the Yanks would consider moving any youngster not named Chamberlain. What will make someone attractive to the Yanks: 1) under 30; 2) athletic and sound defensively; 3) controllable into the future; 4) a well-rounded offensive game that preferably includes plate patience.

It has been assumed the Yanks will look specifically for a center fielder. But they anticipate limited options, having learned already that, for example, Pittsburgh’s Nate McLouth will be near impossible to land. So they would consider having Johnny Damon as the primary center fielder with Brett Gardner and/or Melky Cabrera around to play often enough to keep Damon’s legs fresh.

That allows another year to evaluate if Gardner is for real and/or if Cabrera can rebound from a poor season, while also determining if top prospect Austin Jackson at Triple-A is ready for 2010.

The Dodgers’ Andre Ethier, Philadelphia’s Jayson Werth, and Cleveland’s Shin-Soo Choo and Franklin Gutierrez all fit the desired mode. So might Florida’s Jeremy Hermida, a talented player who has yet to fulfil expectations. The willingness of the Yanks to include Hughes and/or Robinson Cano in conjunction with a surplus reliever or two should open many doors.

Currently, the only way the Yanks intend to chase a major positional free agent such as Manny Ramirez or Mark Teixeira is if they are shut out on pitching and have to consider building in a different way and/or the dismal economy drives down prices (which is possible).

There’s a lot going on here, so I’ll start off with who the Yankees would trade in order to acquire a bat (assuming that this is a legitimate claim). I don’t think the Yankees would trade Phil Hughes, even if his standing in the organization has been somewhat tarnished. However, judging from what has happened over the course of the season and the team’s current needs, I think Ian Kennedy is as good as gone. He’ll get dealt, although his value, like Hughes’, isn’t as high as it once was so he would obviously serve as a part of a package of young talent. I also don’t think that Cano will be traded. They would’ve only traded him for a pitcher, I mean, what’s the point of trading one young talent (a premium position talent) for another (that’s not necessarily a premium position)?

Sherman goes on to name a few players that fit the description he outlined, earlier and all of his ideas are outfielders. They’re all good, in theory, but when you dig deep enough you would see that Andre Ethier is pretty much untouchable, Franklin Gutierrez can’t hit righties, Jeremy Hermida can’t keep healthy long enough to play a full season, and Jayson Werth and Shin-Soo Choo are two unknown unknowns that the Yankees simply don’t have the courage to actually trade for (unestablished players). I must say, though, that Shin-Soo Choo would entice me, as he has some serious skills. Based on Sherman’s list, it seems like he’s guessing that any major trades will address the outfield (the impending losses of Damon and Matsui are clearly foregrounded here). Maybe he thinks that the Yankees are going to move Posada to first relatively soon.

Either way, if the Yankees were going to make a trade, I would see them pursuing a first baseman. This becomes difficult, however, since the Yankees are looking for someone specific (under 30, athletic, controllable, offensive threat and patient). In terms of availability, Ryan Howard and Prince Fielder come to mind, but don’t fit the mold presented by Sherman (not to a tee). Also, James Loney, another name that is thrown around occasionally, isn’t a proven hitter yet and doesn’t warrant first base play in the AL East. Could Joey Votto be available? I’m sure the Yankees will check, but I think the Yankees will get “shut out”, a possibility pondered by Sherman, and won’t acquire a first baseman via trade. If this is the case, the funny thing is that Mark Teixeira fits the outline perfectly. Although the Yankees are trying to save money for pitching purposes, I don’t think they’ll back out of the Teixeira talks.

Sherman briefly talks about pursuing a platoon at first base, if all else fails. He refers to Doug Mientkiewicz and Kevin Millar as the possible platoon-mates, which I’m sure will NOT happen. I mean, if they were that strapped, why not just bring Giambi back for another year?

I’ll continue with more thoughts, later in the day.

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How Many Picks

October 12, 2008, 2:22 am

I just watched the Rays-Sox marathon that ended via B.J. Upton’s sac-fly and, I have to say that I’m rather amazed, not with the game itself, although it was a solid one. Instead, I’m amazed at the sheer number of first round draft choices that participated in the affair, for the Rays.

In fact, most of the lineup consists of first round picks. You’ve got B.J. Upton (2nd in 2002), Carlos Pena (10th in 1998), Evan Longoria (3rd in 2006), Cliff Floyd (14th in 1991) and even the forgettable Gabe Gross (15th in 2001). All 5 are first rounders. Then we also saw Scott Kazmir (15th in 2002) and the lefty David Price (1st in 2007), who eventually got the win.

That’s simply ridiculous. Of course, the team didn’t draft all of these guys, as some were signed (like Floyd) or acquired through intelligent trades. But, it just goes to show you the amount of natural talent that is on the team and the bittersweet benefits of spending years in the AL East’s dark and dingy basement.